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Attendees: T. Averett (W&M), G. Cates (UVa), J-P. Chen (JLab), D. Gaskell (JLab), B. Hesman (UNH), W. Korsch (UK), Z-E. Meziani (Temple), B. Sawatzky (JLab), P. Solvignon (JLab), S. Wood (JLab), X. Zheng (UVa)
 
Attendees: T. Averett (W&M), G. Cates (UVa), J-P. Chen (JLab), D. Gaskell (JLab), B. Hesman (UNH), W. Korsch (UK), Z-E. Meziani (Temple), B. Sawatzky (JLab), P. Solvignon (JLab), S. Wood (JLab), X. Zheng (UVa)
  
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The meeting goal was to gather all the spokespeople of the Hall C A1n and d2n experiments for discussion on the polarized 3He target plans.
  
Conceptual design for the A1n targets: [[Media:a1n_impromptu_target_present.pdf]]
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The general consensus was to use the same target system in Hall A and Hall C. Commissioning of the target system (A1n) would be likely in Hall A in 2015. In Hall C, the very preliminary schedule would put the start of A1n and d2n at the end of 2016.
''ex situ''  3He polarizer system: [[Media:Xemed-polarizer.pdf]]
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Beam polarimetry:
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    - Dave said there won't any problem to get a 2% systematics from the beam polarimetry but to get 1% he will need users contribution. However it doesn't seem that the two experiments need that level of precision after looking at the other sources of systematics.
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Coils:
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    - The important aspect is that the holding field should be uniform in the pumping chamber.  With convection, the polarized gas in circulating so fast in the target chamber that a minimal holding field to limit the depolarization should be enough.
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    - Zein-Eddine suggested two small solenoids, one for the pumping chamber and one for the target chamber. Multiple advantages can be seen if it would work: smaller system which will fit easily on the Hall A and Hall C platform, more room to access the target during the experiment and therefore work can be done faster (ALARA).
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    - Concerns on the Hall C iron platform were expressed
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    - Need an estimate of the fringe field from the SHMS. Paul Brindza said that it won't be a problem but it will be nice to have numbers/field map.
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    - The UVa group is working on the holding field/coil design and will test the different ideas suggested during the meeting.
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Target:
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  - Todd reminded that it was seen in the past that too much laser power on the pumping chamber could damage permanently the target.
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  - Two-pumping-chambers-cell will allow to increase the gas volume to polarize and the laser power.
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  - Metallic target chamber should be OK with caps at each end.
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Lasers:
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  - Laser procurement is an big issue. The COMET production was discontinued.
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  - Todd had contact with Laser Operations LLC. The system looks promising and cheap: [[http://www.qpclasers.com/products_SUltra.html here]]. Todd will order one to test and if all aspects are good more will be bought by JLab, ...
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Polarimetry:
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  - AFP will be used only for calibration
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Slides:
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  - from Gordon: Conceptual design for the A1n targets: [[Media:a1n_impromptu_target_present.pdf]]
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  - from bill: ''ex situ''  3He polarizer system: [[Media:Xemed-polarizer.pdf]]

Revision as of 11:02, 6 January 2012

  • January 5, 2012

Attendees: T. Averett (W&M), G. Cates (UVa), J-P. Chen (JLab), D. Gaskell (JLab), B. Hesman (UNH), W. Korsch (UK), Z-E. Meziani (Temple), B. Sawatzky (JLab), P. Solvignon (JLab), S. Wood (JLab), X. Zheng (UVa)

The meeting goal was to gather all the spokespeople of the Hall C A1n and d2n experiments for discussion on the polarized 3He target plans.

The general consensus was to use the same target system in Hall A and Hall C. Commissioning of the target system (A1n) would be likely in Hall A in 2015. In Hall C, the very preliminary schedule would put the start of A1n and d2n at the end of 2016.

Beam polarimetry:

   - Dave said there won't any problem to get a 2% systematics from the beam polarimetry but to get 1% he will need users contribution. However it doesn't seem that the two experiments need that level of precision after looking at the other sources of systematics. 

Coils:

   - The important aspect is that the holding field should be uniform in the pumping chamber.  With convection, the polarized gas in circulating so fast in the target chamber that a minimal holding field to limit the depolarization should be enough.
   - Zein-Eddine suggested two small solenoids, one for the pumping chamber and one for the target chamber. Multiple advantages can be seen if it would work: smaller system which will fit easily on the Hall A and Hall C platform, more room to access the target during the experiment and therefore work can be done faster (ALARA).
   - Concerns on the Hall C iron platform were expressed
   - Need an estimate of the fringe field from the SHMS. Paul Brindza said that it won't be a problem but it will be nice to have numbers/field map.
   - The UVa group is working on the holding field/coil design and will test the different ideas suggested during the meeting.

Target:

  - Todd reminded that it was seen in the past that too much laser power on the pumping chamber could damage permanently the target.
  - Two-pumping-chambers-cell will allow to increase the gas volume to polarize and the laser power.
  - Metallic target chamber should be OK with caps at each end.
  - 

Lasers:

  - Laser procurement is an big issue. The COMET production was discontinued.
  - Todd had contact with Laser Operations LLC. The system looks promising and cheap: [here]. Todd will order one to test and if all aspects are good more will be bought by JLab, ...

Polarimetry:

  - AFP will be used only for calibration



Slides:

  - from Gordon: Conceptual design for the A1n targets: Media:a1n_impromptu_target_present.pdf
  - from bill: ex situ  3He polarizer system: Media:Xemed-polarizer.pdf